From this interview I’m trying to get the essence of Trump — nearly impossible.

Still, in general, I think we all get the idea that Trump always wants to be a big shot of some kind. But with Trump it mostly ends up being a pretend game. He is just to immature and lazy to be the real deal even when he gets the title. He sounds like the little kid at the pool,” look at me mommy, look at me,” as he cannonballs into the water. It’s always just the attention he craves and really nothing more. Probably he would have been a lot happer had he ran away and joined the circus and become a clown.